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Michael Forum Founder


Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 1594 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: One Click Owners Please Read This |
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Hi
HyperOS Systems Ltd has made a significant change in the way OneClick in its latest version of the software works when compared to its original form.
Originally OneClick would strip out everything other than hardware drivers and the product activation to leave you with an “almost” virgin install of XP in your new partitions. So virgin was these new systems that upon running them for the first time XP would offer to play the introduction video.
The latest version S4.35 unfortunately no longer does any stripping at all and will simply copy/clone the partition in its entirety. So if your XP system is 35 GB in size you will need a partition that is at least that size for OneClick to copy/clone it to.
In my view the ability to strip out should have been retained simply via a software switch that could be accessed at the time of a copy/clone.
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Laurent Admin Team Member


Joined: 13 Apr 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Needless to say, I fully agree with you on that one: HyperOs's decision to "strip" One-Click of its stripping functionality not only turns what was a unique software into a more humdrum imaging/cloning program (with greater ease of replacing an ailing computer, granted) but also cripples its flexibility of use since for instance one would need bigger partitions in order to quadruplicate a fully installed system, software and all.
Even more sadly, the stripping function was high on the wish list for the full flavour of HyperOs for a few of us and one may now legitimately wonder what is going to happen to the idea of implementing it into the full version. An inexplicable step back, really..  |
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John Head Moderator


Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 1442 Location: Zummerset
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree. The stripping performed by the original incarnation of OneClick was its unique selling point and for me was without a doubt the key to the whole package. Further, it can hardly be called OneClick any more if you have to strip out the cloned copy yourself. It is like being given a dog and being told you have to do your own barking!
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Laurent Admin Team Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| John wrote: | | It is like being given a dog and being told you have to do your own barking! |
Hum, I'd quite like that, in fact... a bit less noise!  |
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Mike Tobias Moderator Team Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 299 Location: Canterbury, Kent
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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There's another point being missed here.
Isn't one of the main selling points for Hyperos (in whatever form) that your Windows system gets all clogged up by programs being installed and uninstalled and eventually stops working as efficiently?
If using One-click, you have to strip the system down yourself, surely you still end up with the problem of having all the redundant registry entries, dll files etc. that using hyperos is supposed to overcome.
By not creating that virgin system, One-click seems to have removed the only purpose to its existence.
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Laurent Admin Team Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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This is true, at least in theory as, in practice, I would like to know whether HyperOs's OneClick - or any clean(s)ing utility )more classically defined) for that matter - does as thorough and as reliable a job as I feel I have to perform manually after uninstalling any number of applications: the more complex and bulky the suite, the tricky it is to exhaustively remove all registry traces of said programme.
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Mike Tobias Moderator Team Member


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 299 Location: Canterbury, Kent
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Laurent wrote: | | This is true, at least in theory as, in practice, I would like to know whether HyperOs's One-Click - or any clean(s)ing utility )more classically defined) for that matter - does as thorough and as reliable a job as I feel I have to perform manually after uninstalling any number of applications: the more complex and bulky the suite, the tricky it is to exhaustively remove all registry traces of said programme. |
It presumably did the job a lot better than MOST people could do manually, my assumption being that One-click was aimed at the people who want to do just that, click once and have the work done for them, and who don't have your ability to tackle the registry, and properly rid the system of all its redundancies.
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Laurent Admin Team Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Obviously, and that's the whole point; I merely wanted to point out that, much as I bemoan the loss of the one unique feature of OneClick - for me, what almost justified the existence of the software as well - the idea of reverting to an absolutely pristine virgin system is an ideal since removing all the dependencies, registry keys/values/data etc. to perfection itself depends on the mapping of all these additions during setup and use (as in, but not exclusively, install log files). |
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Michael Forum Founder


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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
HyperOS invested a lot of time and effort to get One Click to clean out a clogged up and dying Windows system. They were very proud of the fact that such a new cleaned system was as near to a new install as they could make it.
I just hope we can get HyperOS to put it back.
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John Head Moderator


Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 1442 Location: Zummerset
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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When I originally tested OneClick I manually checked lots of areas in the registry and performed searches of it. One Click had done a brilliant job of cleaning up.
Mike, I totally agree that without the stripping out, the whole point of the software and the fit with the HyperOs overall philosophy is compromised to the extent that I too would question whether it should exist at all.
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Laurent Admin Team Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| John wrote: | | When I originally tested OneClick I manually checked lots of areas in the registry and performed searches of it. One Click had done a brilliant job of cleaning up. |
No doubt, but again would it remove ALL entries down to the most elusive ones - for e.g. in the CLSID subkey or isolated data without easily recognizable keys, not to mention the entry in the "MenuOrder" subkey, which is created under the start menu during setup, then read from it - and which I have never seen any removal tool or uninstaller, no matter how thorough, get rid of...?
Sorry for being so boringly punctilious at almost 12 midnight...  |
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John Head Moderator


Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 1442 Location: Zummerset
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: |
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The answer in respect of MenuOrder is a definite YES
From the registry - MenuOrder - Start Menu 2 - Programs > Default and in Data - Value not Set Registry entry completely clean.
As for CLSID - did not search every instance, but nothing familiar showed in about 20 pressings of F3. Not that that means a lot to me, everything was long strings of letters and numbers and therefore pretty much gobbledygook.
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Laurent Admin Team Member


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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| John wrote: | The answer in respect of MenuOrder is a definite YES
From the registry - MenuOrder - Start Menu 2 - Programs > Default and in Data - Value not Set Registry entry completely clean. |
Me produces looong whistle of admiration, for which no emoticon is available...  |
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Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 27
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: Hyperos and One Click and Notebook |
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All notebooks/laptops/tablets come pre-installed - usually nowadays with a limited period to activate Windows. I have a need (I thought this was one of the primary purposes of hyperos and oneclick) to always have the native installation on drive C but to have other partitions with windows on other drives to enable the various options of always having a usable system with ability to a) provide other users with an immediate bootable system no matter what they do with it b) an ability to have windows with various partitions holding various inter related programs and utilities and c) data partitions
Most come with 80 GIG hard drives and my initial concern in light of the messages posted here is that i wanted to copy a stripped down and native windows partition after having activated on drive c to (say) drive d.
On doing so with the latest version of one click the 7 gig partition is seen as 2.5 gig partition on drive d
In other words it seems that the copy has performed the strip down - but how to be sure. AND just what is the other 5 gig on drive c all about? Note this is from an absolutely new system without any activation of windows at this time nor program installation
The need to know what is and what is not stripped may (but may not) be important in my scenario.
The important part also is whether the stuff not copied from drive c is important to the other partitions
My guess is that is not a stripping out of the registry entries etc but the leaving behind of a huge no of files (could this be the original xp installation files for example).
Can anyone help on this one? |
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